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	<title>Comments on: Down Under</title>
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		<title>By: Ellie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ellie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That sounds just awful!  It is never a middle of the road thing, is it?  Its either lack of one thing or too much of another.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That sounds just awful!  It is never a middle of the road thing, is it?  Its either lack of one thing or too much of another.</p>
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		<title>By: HypnoMedia</title>
		<link>http://theunwindingpath.com/transhypno/2008/04/15/down-under/comment-page-1/#comment-489</link>
		<dc:creator>HypnoMedia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That's exactly what happened here in Indiana. Once a state representative got up on his high horse and thundered about how anyone could get a "degree" to practice hypnosis, everything went downhill. Some pretty influential people were initially involved, but apparently politics and personalities got added and the result is horrendous.

The resulting legislation is a confused mess. It lists a number of professions that are handled in other sections of the code, and explicitly excludes stage hypnosis. Anyone else doing anything with anything hypnosis related, which includes a wide range of related activities including guided imagery, is subject to a Class A misdemeanor. From my reading, even someone taking the approved course can't even practice an induction even inside class without being subject to arrest. Even someone who uses guided imagery for ritual work, which is what was going to happen at the local pagan group's regular meeting, would be included. 

And the training requirements are worse. For one thing, there is no exception for training outside the state. Someone with 25 years in the field and Masters certifications from every known organization still have to take 500 hours (the mandated limit in the legislation) to qualify. Add to that the rampant favoritism with the first school (and still the only school) approved (the founder was spouse of one of the accrediting board members) and the cluelessness of the state licensing agency that is keeping anyone else from getting accredation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s exactly what happened here in Indiana. Once a state representative got up on his high horse and thundered about how anyone could get a &#8220;degree&#8221; to practice hypnosis, everything went downhill. Some pretty influential people were initially involved, but apparently politics and personalities got added and the result is horrendous.</p>
<p>The resulting legislation is a confused mess. It lists a number of professions that are handled in other sections of the code, and explicitly excludes stage hypnosis. Anyone else doing anything with anything hypnosis related, which includes a wide range of related activities including guided imagery, is subject to a Class A misdemeanor. From my reading, even someone taking the approved course can&#8217;t even practice an induction even inside class without being subject to arrest. Even someone who uses guided imagery for ritual work, which is what was going to happen at the local pagan group&#8217;s regular meeting, would be included. </p>
<p>And the training requirements are worse. For one thing, there is no exception for training outside the state. Someone with 25 years in the field and Masters certifications from every known organization still have to take 500 hours (the mandated limit in the legislation) to qualify. Add to that the rampant favoritism with the first school (and still the only school) approved (the founder was spouse of one of the accrediting board members) and the cluelessness of the state licensing agency that is keeping anyone else from getting accredation.</p>
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		<title>By: Ellie</title>
		<link>http://theunwindingpath.com/transhypno/2008/04/15/down-under/comment-page-1/#comment-488</link>
		<dc:creator>Ellie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 13:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Craig,

Thanks for commenting. You have actually inspired today's post.

Ellie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Craig,</p>
<p>Thanks for commenting. You have actually inspired today&#8217;s post.</p>
<p>Ellie</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Raugh, C.H.</title>
		<link>http://theunwindingpath.com/transhypno/2008/04/15/down-under/comment-page-1/#comment-487</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Raugh, C.H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 13:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with Craig on this.  I know several hypnotists who are quite talented despite having no formal training or certifications, and I've heard through community channels of a couple of formally trained and certified hypnotists with little competence.

What's the answer?  I don't know, but I'm pretty sure that government licensing, even at the state or local level, is not it.  Politicians are not competent to set standards for hypnotism, so they'll codify whatever various lobbying groups tell them and filter it through ignorance.  (Do I sound cynical?  Maybe I've lived in the DC area too long.)  

&#60;MR&#62;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with Craig on this.  I know several hypnotists who are quite talented despite having no formal training or certifications, and I&#8217;ve heard through community channels of a couple of formally trained and certified hypnotists with little competence.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s the answer?  I don&#8217;t know, but I&#8217;m pretty sure that government licensing, even at the state or local level, is not it.  Politicians are not competent to set standards for hypnotism, so they&#8217;ll codify whatever various lobbying groups tell them and filter it through ignorance.  (Do I sound cynical?  Maybe I&#8217;ve lived in the DC area too long.)  </p>
<p>&lt;MR&gt;</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Eubanks</title>
		<link>http://theunwindingpath.com/transhypno/2008/04/15/down-under/comment-page-1/#comment-486</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Eubanks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 16:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is, people confusing licensing and certification with competence.  There is an invalid assumption that having a piece of paper means you are better than someone without the paper (a form of mass hypnosis).

It's easy to forget that some of the greatest hypnotists in this century like Dave Elman, never had a certification a license or even bothered to put CHT behind their name.  

And like I tell my clients, a stack of testimonials will get you way more new clients when used properly in your marketing, than a stack of certificates.

Cheers,

Craig Eubanks
HypnosisMarketingTips.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is, people confusing licensing and certification with competence.  There is an invalid assumption that having a piece of paper means you are better than someone without the paper (a form of mass hypnosis).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s easy to forget that some of the greatest hypnotists in this century like Dave Elman, never had a certification a license or even bothered to put CHT behind their name.  </p>
<p>And like I tell my clients, a stack of testimonials will get you way more new clients when used properly in your marketing, than a stack of certificates.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Craig Eubanks<br />
HypnosisMarketingTips.com</p>
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