Comments on: Intelligence vrs. What? http://theunwindingpath.com/transhypno/2008/07/09/intelligence-vrs-what/ Wed, 08 Feb 2012 08:04:45 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Ellie http://theunwindingpath.com/transhypno/2008/07/09/intelligence-vrs-what/comment-page-1/#comment-1011 Ellie Thu, 10 Jul 2008 14:55:36 +0000 http://theunwindingpath.com/transhypno/?p=621#comment-1011 Both of you have really good points. The client I had in mind when I wrote this, is a believe as Michael put it - afraid to take responsibility. However, we have worked on this and I think hypnosis or the sessions have become empowering for him. And Adam, you are truly wise. My philosophy has always been that everyone has some form of intelligence. I am totally dense when it comes to anything involving math and I know a bunch of folks who are totally lacking common sense, but are in the genius category. Perhaps stubborn is another way to word it. And I have come to realize the best way to handle that is to tell them that maybe this is not their time for using hypnosis. Most change their tunes when they realize I am not desperate to do hypnosis on them. Thank you both for your perspectives. Both of you have really good points. The client I had in mind when I wrote this, is a believe as Michael put it - afraid to take responsibility. However, we have worked on this and I think hypnosis or the sessions have become empowering for him.

And Adam, you are truly wise. My philosophy has always been that everyone has some form of intelligence. I am totally dense when it comes to anything involving math and I know a bunch of folks who are totally lacking common sense, but are in the genius category.

Perhaps stubborn is another way to word it. And I have come to realize the best way to handle that is to tell them that maybe this is not their time for using hypnosis. Most change their tunes when they realize I am not desperate to do hypnosis on them.

Thank you both for your perspectives.

]]> By: Adam Eason http://theunwindingpath.com/transhypno/2008/07/09/intelligence-vrs-what/comment-page-1/#comment-1006 Adam Eason Wed, 09 Jul 2008 18:31:26 +0000 http://theunwindingpath.com/transhypno/?p=621#comment-1006 Maybe someone with less perceived intelligence has less with which to confuse and obstruct the trance though? Just a thought... What about the notion that your own beliefs and perceptions are likely to influence greatly the effectiveness of what you do?... and therefore, you should maybe abandon any notion of deciding whether anyone is more receptive than another. We are all unique, we are all receptive and we are all likely to experience far greater trance states with the help of someone not making decisions about perceived levels of intelligence. In some ways, I reckon your mentor should not have mentioned anything at all about such a thing... ;-) Big smiles to you Ellie, A. Maybe someone with less perceived intelligence has less with which to confuse and obstruct the trance though? Just a thought…

What about the notion that your own beliefs and perceptions are likely to influence greatly the effectiveness of what you do?… and therefore, you should maybe abandon any notion of deciding whether anyone is more receptive than another. We are all unique, we are all receptive and we are all likely to experience far greater trance states with the help of someone not making decisions about perceived levels of intelligence.

In some ways, I reckon your mentor should not have mentioned anything at all about such a thing… ;-)

Big smiles to you Ellie, A.

]]> By: Michael Raugh, C.H. http://theunwindingpath.com/transhypno/2008/07/09/intelligence-vrs-what/comment-page-1/#comment-1002 Michael Raugh, C.H. Wed, 09 Jul 2008 13:27:03 +0000 http://theunwindingpath.com/transhypno/?p=621#comment-1002 Josh Billings famously said, "The trouble with most folks isn't so much their ignorance, as knowing so many things that ain't so." I think that's a fair description of what you're dealing with -- what we all deal with -- when faced with that client who just won't let go of the myths. Intelligence used to be pretty well defined as the ability to reason, to use and understand logic, and to draw conclusions from data. Nowadays it's popular to fuzzy things up with claims of many types of intelligence, and I often wonder if that isn't a way of avoiding having to say that some people just aren't that smart. ("Well, he may not have that kind of intelligence but he's got lots of this kind...") But I digress. The client who clings to the myths may or may not be intelligent (okay, I'm leaning towards not), but I think there is more involved than that. That stubborn clinging to old beliefs in the face of new information is at least partly an emotional response. Maybe it's fear of having to take responsibility for his/her own life, or fear of success, or something more complicated even. Whatever the source, it's got little or nothing to do with reason. <MR> Josh Billings famously said, “The trouble with most folks isn’t so much their ignorance, as knowing so many things that ain’t so.” I think that’s a fair description of what you’re dealing with — what we all deal with — when faced with that client who just won’t let go of the myths.

Intelligence used to be pretty well defined as the ability to reason, to use and understand logic, and to draw conclusions from data. Nowadays it’s popular to fuzzy things up with claims of many types of intelligence, and I often wonder if that isn’t a way of avoiding having to say that some people just aren’t that smart. (”Well, he may not have that kind of intelligence but he’s got lots of this kind…”) But I digress.

The client who clings to the myths may or may not be intelligent (okay, I’m leaning towards not), but I think there is more involved than that. That stubborn clinging to old beliefs in the face of new information is at least partly an emotional response. Maybe it’s fear of having to take responsibility for his/her own life, or fear of success, or something more complicated even. Whatever the source, it’s got little or nothing to do with reason.

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